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This weblog is a news and views site for tax professionals within the UK and international in-house tax community.  You will find information about appointments and people moves in and around the in-house tax market, issues affecting the in-house tax professional, opinions on the state of the tax job market, updates on tax technology, and other general thoughts of the day.

Hope you find it useful.

Name: Simon Godley
Location: St Albans, United Kingdom

This site has been developed by Simon Godley, who also runs the niche tax recruitment company Talentpool Selection . Simon spends a lot of his time placing tax specialists into FTSE companies, large in-bound groups and some professional services organisations. He also recruits and is well networked around the UK tax technology and VAT markets.

FDs and the SAO regime

Tuesday, 1 December 2009

Source: The Financial Director newsletter
Written by: Peter Williams

FDs are being lumbered with the senior accounting officer role ­ but, oddly, they’re not protesting

UK finance directors are facing one of the biggest changes in compliance to hit their companies in decades. But you can’t hear so much as a collective tut. The introduction of the concept of a ‘senior accounting officer’ or SAO is more than a corporate imposition; it is a personal threat to each and every FD. So where are the voices raised in protest? So far, nowhere to be seen. And that’s astonishing.

As this issue barely seems to have hit the radar, FDs may need reminding why they should be up in arms. The 2009 Budget introduced requirements for the SAOs of large companies and groups to report to the taxman on the adequacy of their accounting systems for tax returns. And the real sit up-and-take notice bit? The SAO will be personally responsible for complying with these new requirements. And just to confirm the inevitable: a poll by PricewaterhouseCoopers indicates that more than 80% of companies are naming their FDs their SAO.

The SAO sign-off measure came into effect for financial years starting on or after the date of Royal Assent on 21 July 2009. At the moment, the regime only applies to companies or groups with turnover of more than £200m or gross assets of £2bn so big companies with a July year-end are already dealing with these requirements. The majority of companies with December year-ends have little time left to put their house in order. Under the rules, the SAO will have to provide annual assurance to HM Revenue & Customs that appropriate tax accounting policies and processes are in place and maintained.

The SAO regime is reminiscent of the US’s Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which also forced companies to focus attention on risk and processes. However, while Sarbox was greeted with howls of outrage and non-US companies threatening to quit the US to avoid falling under its regime, SAO has been meet with equanimity.

Perhaps the calm is due to HMRC saying it will apply a light touch in the first year of implementation. Even so, the SAO will still need to be able to demonstrate that their company is taking reasonable steps to review the appropriateness of the tax accounting arrangements in their business. Let’s put this in a wider context: as recession bit, government tax revenues collapsed. It desperately needs as much cash as it can lay its hands on, so squeezing big corporates looks like as good a source as any and the SOA legislation looks like an irresistible tool to make tax revenues flow.

Surprisingly, the PwC survey suggests that, among tax professionals, the SAO is seen in a relatively positive light, with one-third saying it provides an opportunity to drive improvements, such as reducing manual interventions. But then, the tax guys aren’t likely to be the SAO, so might be quite happy to see their FD boss squirming under the compliance spotlight.

The SAO regime covers different taxes and looks at the totality of processes and systems used to support tax compliance. The tax named as having the biggest risk was VAT, named by 54% of the survey, followed by corporation tax (22%) and PAYE (19%).

Tax is notoriously difficult to get completely right and the interface between it and the other part of a company’s financial systems is often held together with little more than a few tired spreadsheets. Even so, the message from UK plc is that the SAO sign-off will not be a major problem.

HMRC says it believes most groups are compliant but that there is a minority of large companies that need encouragement to up their game. The rationale as far as HMRC is concerned is that it wants senior management to take responsibility for systems and processes that can calculate and file accurate liabilities. It says there is an accountability gap in this area. Of particular concern to the taxman are those grey areas of the paypacket: expenses, benefits, short-term travel, secondees, entertaining, equity and termination. So as long as FDs can confirm everything is OK with those issues then my concerns are little more than journalistic hyperbole, even if the requirements are unlike anything seen in UK tax law, imposing personal duties and potential penalties on individual officers.

The only real positive that comes from this querulous piece of legislation is that tax may become a topic of more frequent discussion in the boardroom. And if that does happen, then it may act as a spur for companies to invest properly and substantially in their tax systems, bringing about, in many cases, long overdue transformation. Figures of spend of more than £50,000 seem to be the best guess for most companies, according to a Deloitte survey. But 10% think it will cost £250,000 or more to achieve compliance.

Maybe that figure needs to be set against the personal penalty for the SAO of £5,000 in relation to each failure of duty for each year. That bill will be covered by insurance: the cost to the FD’s personal reputation is not insurable.

Peter Williams is a chartered accountant and freelance journalist

SG comment: I thought this was a good article, which sums up the SAO regime situation so far, and also supporting evidence for large companies investing more heavily in tax technology systems over the next few years.

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Tax Technology Forum - 29th April 2009 at the IoD - Review

Saturday, 2 May 2009


The first Tax Technology Forum, hosted by Talentpool Selection, was held at the Institute of Directors on Wednesday evening this week.

Following initial welcome drinks and opportunity for networking / reacquainting with ex-colleagues, the event got straight into the discussion on current issues and challenges faced in tax technology, and what we could expect in the future.

There was a panel of six experts, highly experienced in the field of tax technology and accounting systems, answering questions and queries from a room of 35 tax and/or tax technology professionals.

The panel was:

Andrew Wrentmore – ONESource Tax Provision, Thomson Reuters

Alan James – European Director, Vertex Global Tax Solutions

Graham Tilbury – Independent Tax Technology Consultant

Michael Camburn – Managing Director, Ryan & Company

Ilana Rinkoff – Director of Tax Risk Management Network

Gareth Scanlon – EMEIA Tax Performance Advisory Group, Ernst & Young


Questions raised included:

• My organisation is about to embark on a major finance transformation. We are looking to implement a standardised ERP system with a view to achieving tax automation. What have other companies done on this? We are looking for creative / visionary ideas which are currently being employed in the market.

• Under proposals introduced in the Budget, the Senior Accounting Officer will now be personally accountable for certifying that they have adequate accounting systems in place to ensure the accuracy of their tax computations or face penalties of up to £5,000 plus loss of reputation and Company fines:
- What is meant by 'accounting systems' – would this naturally include the tax technology/IT system?

• What type / size of organisation benefit most from employing an indirect tax solution?

• What are the expectations / predictions for the future in terms of how tax / VAT / PAYE technology will look? Are companies looking to automate tax to the extent they will be operating with a ‘touch of a button’ solution?

• I work in tax with a UK group. From a risk management perspective, what do you advise re filing of our documents / correspondence. What e-filing systems are available?

Quite thorough and well thought out answers were given from a combination of the panel experts. The Senior Accounting Officer personally accountable question was heavily debated, with some conflicting views on what we could expect from HMRC on this. This questions could have potentially filled the whole hour of discussion, rather than the 20 mins it was granted. This really does sound like it will be a major minefield for FDs / CFOs of large companies when the rules kick in, and it was likened to the whole Sarbanes-Oxley regime that came in a few years ago.

The question about the future outlook of tax technology and could we see a 'push of a button' solution was healthily debated between the panelists and the attendees, with the general consensus that this is slightly in the realms of Sci-fi rather than practical realism, and that international businesses are so complex than human input can not yet be replaced by clever machines.

Initial feedback from the event has been very positive:

"Thank you Simon for organizing the event, the event also clearly marked that even with the technology today and virtual communication, people like to discuss and share information verbally and face to face, thanks from Holland"

"A great evening Simon. Many thanks for organizing the event. I made a number of new friends and reconnected with some old ones too. Budget Note 62 seemed a big topic, and one that didn't fit into the time our session allowed, so I'm expecting to see plenty of debate here over the coming days once the Draft Finance Bill has been published and digested."

"Thanks for the opportunity to present; it was very worthwhile from my perspective and actually I have had quite some interest from people looking to “link-in” on LinkedIn which is great testament to such a networking event."

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Banking VAT guys move (back) to E&Y

Tuesday, 24 February 2009

Source: Tax Careers Magazine

E&Y has recently recruited two senior financial services VAT experts to take lead roles in its banking VAT team.

Mitchell Moss has joined as a Partner from law firm Dorsey & Whitney, where he worked in tax litigation.

Also, Andrew Bailey has joined as a Director from Lehman Brothers, where he was global head of VAT.

Both previously worked at E&Y. Andrew Bailey was there between 1996 and 1999, before moving on to KPMG. He was at KPMG for 5-6 years, operating as a Senior Manager in the FS VAT team before being appointed into the Lehman role.

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Tax Jobs - Weekly Highlights

Tuesday, 9 September 2008

I think it is clear that industry now will be as flexible as possible for in-house tax execs regarding working hours and flexible / home working, within reason. Tax roles which are full time (5 days) with one day working from home are becoming easier to negotiate. The job I'm featuring this week is a VAT Manager role with a banking group, and I think worthy of a feature as the company will consider candidates on either a full time or 4 days per week basis.

VAT Manager - Banking Group
London £65,000 - £75,000 + Bonus + Bens
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Tax Jobs - Weekly Highlights

Thursday, 24 April 2008

The theme for this week is very much in-house indirect tax roles. I am currently working on 3 VAT/Indirect Tax Manager positions with large group companies. These roles will be mostly focused on VAT, but some roles can include other taxes e.g. PAYE/employment taxes or very specialist areas such as stamp duty or landfill tax. Because of the specialist knowledge and experience involved, there is usually a scarcity of candidates with the right skills.

A couple of examples are:

Indirect Tax Manager - Thames Valley
Click here for more info

VAT / Indirect Tax Manager - Surrey
Click here for more info

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Tax Jobs - Weekly Highlights

Wednesday, 12 March 2008

I have picked up recently a couple more in-house indirect tax/VAT roles, generally at the experienced Manager level, c.£60-70k. Whilst these are specialist roles, I get the feeling from Heads of Tax that the VAT/indirect tax position of a group can be as critical as the CT/direct tax side. This is particularly the case if the group is either loss making or not paying CT, in which case the majority of the creative tax planning has to come from the VAT/indirect work.

Indirect Tax & Transfer Pricing Manager - Home Counties
£60,000 - £65,000 + Car + Bonus
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European VAT Manager - Surrey
£60,000 - £70,000 + Bens
See More Details

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Pre-Budget Report - Business / Corporation Taxes - Impact on Big Business

Wednesday, 10 October 2007


Putting my very rusty tax technical hat back on, I thought I would quickly review the main changes from Alistair Darling's pre-budget report that will affect businesses:

Capital Allowances - fire safety expenditure / biofuel plants / Plant & Machinery disposal to a non resident

Corporate Tax: disguised interest

Corporate Tax: foreign exchange matching rules

Holiday pay - NIC exemption to be withdrawn

Exemptions for Investment Managers

Landfill Tax

Leasing of Plant & Machinery

Life tax measures

Measuring Tax Losses

Tax simplification for UK/EU VAT rules, anti-avoidance legislation and corporate tax rules for related companies

Spreading of tax relief for pension contributions

Tax treatment of financial derivatives


Whilst I can try to get a grasp of what each of the above measures are trying to do, it is rather beyond me to be able to say whether businesses are better or worse off as a result of the proposed changes. Taking off my tax technical hat and putting on my slightly cynical political hat, I would imagine that the net result is that more business / corporate tax will be paid. Pensioners and second home-owners will benefit as a result of individuals tax changes, which could be nice for votes, but complex corporate tax rules may help to balance the books, whilst at the same time snatching a quite a lot more tax from private equity owners.

For more detailed analysis of the above proposals, you may want to look at:

www.ukbudget.com produced by Deloitte

Views from industry tax professionals on this most welcome

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